Echo JS 0.11.0

Interesting... with webpack, will often inject $, jQuery and window.jQuery via webpack.ProvidePlugin ... I'm more inclined to avoid jQuery altogether these days if possible.

The query engines in most browsers is as good as I need.... document.querySelector* does what I need.  With shims for Array.from, and addEventListener, that covers the major use case.  Promises are in the browser and bluebird has more as a better alternative.  Axios and fetch are better options for remote requests, already promise based.  The value add for jQuery (as a pretty big library) just isn't as worth it to me.

It's getting to a point that it's worth considering having two builds in babel again... one for modern browsers, another for ES2015 target.  Since most self-updating browsers and even Node have most of ES2015 now, a lot of the patching is only for IE9-11 (depending on what you support).

I can't help but feel that these templating libraries aren't long for this world as ES6 templates are supported by all modern browsers.

Nice primer on the React way...  It does take some getting used to... and aside from a few edges, really love React as an application platform.  Some types of interactions (animation and drag-drop) are harder to fit though.

It seems like this should be used *VERY* sparingly, it will cause a reflow in the dom and rerender at the component level.  It really seems a bit backward to me.

That said, it's a nifty idea, I just think it breaks the whole point of the virtual dom, and removes many of the advantages of react.

My extent to this is I will set the size and scroll position of the document level object into the redux store, so that it can be read by many components at once.

Wow, that's impressive... still not as small as a hello world with preact+redux

It isn't if you are developing against the beta/preview releases.

Veerrry interesting...

Considering how much the API surface in Angular 2 has changed in the past year, that's hilarious.

(sarcasm) the part where you enthusiastically get started, then the part where you wish you'd just used React instead.

LOL