Echo JS 0.11.0

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Neonsquare comments

Neonsquare 1417 days ago. link 1 point
I disagree with nearly all of the points.
Being open source is definitely no warranty
for quality. Many open source projects lack
proper qualified contributors - which makes
progress difficult and even sometimes fixes
chaotic and unplanned. Even in bigger and 
more healthy open source projects the work
Is either done by individuals with personal
interests (and disinterests) ... or by
payed teams to work on the project.

There is definitely a lot to ensure before
OpenSource projects provides the quality, focus
and steady progress a dedicated SaaS Team
can provide.

This is also not a mutual exclusive decision. The software
behind a SaaS could be OpenSource and the service
can still offer enough value to be good, while
at the same time giving the opportunity to
get features into the SaaS by contributing to 
the Open Source project.
Neonsquare 1559 days ago. link 0 point
Hm... just a quick glance... it doesn't seem to make much use of typing and without strictNullChecks you miss one of the most important typing aspects in TS.
Neonsquare 2457 days ago. link 3 points
I agree to city41 is basically wishing promises were observables. It is on purpose and following an agenda though. Its clear that observables allow for use patterns that cannot or only cumbersome modelled using promises. Observables are a useful tool for certain use cases.

What I do NOT like is the tone of the article which tries to shift the reasoning about promises into something distasteful. Calling them "not neutral" which is meant as the opposite to "opinionated" and meant in a negative way. While the arguments seem to be constructed in a way to make observables stand out as the ideal, he only mentions them offhand in the introduction. I don't think this is by coincidence. His reasoning is a subjective value statement that even is followed through by claiming concepts like Promises are "only invented" while better ones (he obviously means observables) are "discovered". This claims that Promises are something "unnatural" and flawed and observables are "natural" and flawless.

There is a certain kind of thinking I sometimes call "single minded" - which is perhaps a special kind of cognitive dissonance which can only accept single concepts in a particular problem space. Being unable to accept pluralism as a result.

Yes concepts like observables are more suitable to some use cases than promises. It could be argued though that promises might be easier to understand or use for many JS programmers today. It might be that promises disguised behind async/await is easier to understand and use than observables. I don't know - thats just a subjective perception. One thing is clear though: In a bigger JS ecosystem the concept of promises is much more common and therefore interaction of APIs and thirdparty modules suits to them quite well. Though - since promises can also be consumed by observables this ain't not such a bad thing - its called "options", "choice" or... pluralism.